General
Meeting
7:00 PM,September
7, 2000
Presentation
on Roll Computers Play in relation to Medical Records
by Tim
Sommers
September at a Glance 6 PC SIG, 7:00 p.m.
Super America Station
60th & Layton
Topic-Calendar Creator7 WAUC General Meeting, 7:00 p.m.
Jackson Park Lutheran Church
4535 W. Oklahoma Ave.12 Apple II/Apple IIGS SIG, 7:00 p.m.
Child Dev. Center of St. Joseph's
1600 W. Oklahoma Ave.13 HTML SIG, 7:00 p.m.
Corporate Technologies
9733 W. Greenfield Ave. Suite 20614 Multi-Format SIG, 7:00 p.m.
Corporate Technologies
9733 W. Greenfield Ave. Suite 20620 Deadline for submitting articles for WAUCtalk, please send to:
mbellin@bigfoot.com or
marieb@eudoramail.com21 Telecom SIG, 7:00 p.m.
Super America Station
60th & Layton27 Exec. Bd. Meeting 7:00 p.m.
Doris Regner's Home
President's Report
First of all a special thank you to all who made last month's picnic a success. The food was good and plentiful. It is great to be able to take time to just socialize with many of the members and potential members. It seems that summer has flown by. Labor Day has passed and most of the kids have already started school. Next year my daughter will be going to college and the offers have been coming in over the past few months. We have been on the Internet searching for info on colleges, scholarships and financial aid.
For any of you that were at the June meeting and saw David Severino demonstrate some great Microsoft products, we have good news. David will be back next month to demonstrate Windows 2000 ME. Windows 2000 ME will officially be released on September 14th, so this will be your chance to see Windows at the next level.I was able to obtain from Microsoft, the program Picture It. It is a full brand new version and is available to anybody who wants it with one stipulation. You must write a review and have it submitted to Microsoft (this is very important!). If you are interested let me know.
Bruce Kosbab
July Board Meeting
Bruce Kosbab, Doris Regner, Marcia Zientek, Terry Harvey, Jackie Tamsett, Diane Vukovich, and Leo Hoffer gathered at Marcia's home for the WAUC Executive Board Meeting. Marie Bellin was excused. Leo announced the PKZip demonstration had been canceled by PKWare. He will work on rescheduling the demo. Bluemound Gardens has canceled all their computer shows due to poor attendance.It was suggested that the WAUC membership directory be included on WAUC's website. The board voted that suggestion down out of fear that the information would be used by companies to send spam to our members. We still haven't heard from APCUG on the status of our CD order.
Freewwweb is out of business. Juno will be taking it over. There have been many complaints about advertising banners on free Internet service providers. There was some discussion on whether we should have a "Membership Director". This would be someone to keep track of all the additions and changes to members information. It was decided things will remain as they are.
Marcia will pick up the sub-sandwich from Sam's Club on the day of the picnic. The August and September board meetings will be held at the home of Doris Regner. Leo will double-check on our reservations for the conference room at SuperAmerica.
Terry Harvey
What Does That Mean:
Here is a list of some of the most common acronyms found in newsgroups (and in some e-mail).
AFAIK - As far as I know
BTW - By the way
HTH - Hope this helps
IMO - In my opinion
IMHO - In my humble opinion
IMNSHO - In my not so humble opinion
IOW - In other words
LOL-Laughing out loud (some people seem to use this for "lots of luck")
OIC - Oh, I see
ROTFL-Rolling on the floor laughing
BG - Big grin
G - Big grin
g - GrinAnd, how about all these symbols?
:-) Smile
:-D Laughing
;-) Winking
:-/ Scowling
:-O Surprise
>:( Angry
:'-( Crying
:-p Sticking out the tongueBe careful with these--people take them very seriously.
July Telecom SIG
The July 20th Telecom SIG was held at Super America at 60th and Layton with about 16 members present. The plan for the evening was to explain and show how to add a background or an animated GIF to e-mail. These are the instructions:In "Netscape Communicator" click on "Communicator" at the top of the page. Choose "Messenger", then click on "New Message" and then go to "Format". From the drop down menu, choose "Page Colors and Properties". You should now have a window called "Page Properties" with a sub category of "Colors and Backgrounds" In the bottom section of this page is "Background Image", "Use Image" should be checked, the long box next to it is empty. Go to your disk or wherever you have a "GIF" and choose one. The name of the GIF will be in the box. Click OK, the Background will now be included in your messages. It is necessary for you to change your text in some way by going to Format and adding color, or a size change, for the background to stay. To include only one animated GIF, go to "New Message" and choose "Insert", click on "Image" and find the animated GIF you want and click on it. It will be added to your message. This all sounded very complicated to me but as I typed this I followed step by step and it worked! Anyone interested in purchasing a disc with animated GIFs can do so from WAUC for just $2.00.
When Doris opened her animated GIFs, ACDSee started and there was some discussion regarding this program. Doris explained how she could take a thumbnail of a picture or graphic and add it to another program through cut and paste. This program is on a disc and also sold through WAUC.
A question came up regarding using both Internet Explorer (IE) and Netscape Navigator. Both of these are browsers and either can be used. Just pick and choose which one you want when you go onto the Internet.
Tony Maglio showed us his Home Page with pictures of his family. Tony's mother Rosalie recently passed away, not long after her 100th birthday and those present requested that Tony put a picture of his mother on the site also! We also checked out a Web page Bruce Schneider put together for someone, and then discussed our own "WAUC" home page.
Now that Bruce has become the Webmaster, he is requesting WAUC members to send him ideas (bruceschneid@bigfoot.com) of what you would like to see posted. After board approval he will post them to our site. We finished up the evening with a tour of the WAUC Web page.
**** The URL for the Myths & Virus site is: http://www/Vmyths.com/
Jackie Tamsett
Roll Over Rembrant
Microsoft PublishingTip
Tom Sawyer got someone else to whitewash that fence for him; why not follow his enterprising lead? Check out the toolbar button with the wide paintbrush on it. That's the Format Painter, and it copies the format of any selected object and applies that format to any other object. This is handy when you've imported text into a Publisher document and want the imported text to have the same formatting as the rest of the document. It works on circles and lines as well as text. Here's how:Highlight the text with the formatting you want copied. Make sure you also select the paragraph mark when you select the text. Click the Format Painter. Your pointer becomes a paintbrush. Click and drag the pointer over the text or paragraph mark you want to change.
In a hurry? Right-click the text or object with the format you want; select Pick Up Formatting to copy that formatting; select the object you want to which you want to apply the formatting; choose Apply Formatting.
August Telecom SIG
On Thursday, August 17th at 7 PM, the Telecom SIG was held in the meeting room at the Super America Station at 60th and Layton, the usual time and place. There were ten people in attendance, a small summer turnout.The SIG is held to help people become more familiar with the internet and to learn many of the facets of surfing the WEB. It is held on the third Wednesday of the month. Doris Regner hosted this session and covered a great deal of material. The value of bigfoot.com , as an E-mail forwarding service, was again mentioned. See the July WAUC Telecom article for more details.
Another subject covered was: Saving An Image From the WEB. Right click on the image you want to save, left click on Save Image As, choose a location on the hard drive or disk, name the graphic and click on Save. You will then be able to open or import this graphic into most of your programs such as Print Artist, Word, etc. Opening it with ACDSee will allow you to copy and paste it or change the format. ACDSee is a Graphic Viewer. This is available on a Disk of the Month as shareware.
Doris also explained how to "remove the carrots or greater than signs" > " from a forwarded E-mail message. Start by pasting the message into a word document such as Microsoft Word or Works. Go to Edit and select Replace, then the Find and Replace window comes up, in the box next to the Find What, Put in the " > " and then in the Replace With Box, leave the Replace With Box empty. Then click on the Replace Button and the carrots will be gone. You can copy this message and paste it into your E-mail.
After various questions were answered, it was about 9 PM and we were ready to go home.
Dale Voit
Defrag "What and Why"?
From: 1stpickPCtips@onelist.com
We have covered how to defragment your hard drive in the past. If you remember, you can start Disk Defragmenter by clicking Start-Programs-Accessories-System Tools and then clicking Disk Defragmenter. But the question is "Why?".DOS was designed to be able to place the maximum amount of information on your hard drive. When copying information to the hard drive, it may place part of the file in one place, skip a few sectors and place more in another part, repeating this process until the entire file is copied. Instead of the data being one contiguous file, it could be spread all over your hard drive. In other words it is fragmented.
'Defrag" brings those pieces back together and reduces the search time for the various bits and pieces of your file. In addition to speeding up your computer's response, it has the additional bonus of extending the life of your hard drive.
Facts for Your Storehouse of Knowledge
Did you know...
* Rubber bands last longer when refrigerated.
* Peanuts are one of the ingredients of dynamite.
* The national anthem of Greece has 158 verses.
* There are 293 ways to make change for a dollar.
* The average person's left hand does 56% of the typing.
* A shark is the only fish that can blink with both eyes.
* There are more chickens than people in the world.
* Two-thirds of the world's eggplants are grown in New Jersey.???
August General Meeting-Indoor Picnic
The forty-three members attending the WAUC annual indoor picnic provided enough food to satisfy everyone's palate. The set-up and clean-up crew was grateful to all who brought their food in ready-to-serve containers. It really expedited their jobs. The sub sandwiches were a crowd pleaser and a perfect main course to all the other offerings. Thanks to Arlene Logan who made a substantial contribution to pay for them.Although it was difficult to interrupt the socializing going on, President Bruce Kosbab managed to conduct a brief business meeting. No reports were given. Bruce mentioned the increased number of phone calls he received as a result of the article about WAUC in the Community Newspapers. Bruce also announced that we could expect a return visit by David Severino in October talking about Windows 2000.
The socializing continued until about 8:30 p.m.
Marcia Zientek, Secretary
THANK YOU,
THANK YOU,
THANK YOU!!
For another memorable WAUC Picnic! Once again the array of food was scrumptious. From snacks and desserts, to salads and beans, and everything in between - the choices were limitless. It was a great time to sit back, eat hardy and enjoy the company of fellow WAUC members. Thanks to all who brought food, helped set it up, and clean it up. We couldn't have done such a great job with out the cooperation of the entire club! A special thanks to Arlene Logan for her generous monetary donation. We are privileged to have you as a WAUC member and friend… For those that were unable to attend, know that we missed your company and hope to see you at next year's annual summer picnic.
Jackie Tamsett and your WAUC Picnic Committee.
Just want to say thanks to all the board members and everyone else whose efforts produced a wonderful WAUC picnic. Food was great and everything was well arranged. Wasn't it nice to see so many of our members there? Bruce K, you should be proud to have such a well organized staff. May WAUC go on forever!
Leo
Membership Directory is Ready to pick up
Membership Directories are ready to be picked up. They will be available at the General Meeting.
Marcia Zientek
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It came with my pea see.
It plane lee marks four my revue
Miss steaks I can knot sea.I've run this poem threw it,
I'm sure your pleas too no.
Its let her perfect in it's weigh;
My chequer tolled me sew.
PC SIG
The PC SIG was held on Wednesday, August 2, at the Super America meeting room on 60th and Layton. Thirteen members were present. While Doris was setting up the projector and lap top, we had a short question and answer session. Doris reminded us that when installing a program, it is important that you disable your virus protection program, and all open programs should be closed. Press Control, Alt, and Delete keys at the same time, then click on each program and End task. Repeat this procedure for each program that is open. I asked her if the programs can be retrieved. She answered, when the computer is rebooted, all programs will appear again. Never delete Explorer, Systray or Rundll.A tip from Marsha: There is a way to put a "Shut down fast" icon on your desktop. Double click on icon, and this will allow a quick shutdown of your computer.
1. Right click on any blank area of the desktopBarbara had the CD ROM, "Who Wants To Be a Millionaire". It is free, and is found on various General Mills cereal boxes. I have it, and played with it. What a fun game! Regis is just as funny on the computer as he is on the TV show. It is done in a very clever way. Be careful, this program can be addicting!!!
2. Choose New, then Shortcut from the shortcut menu
3. In the command line box, type,
c:\windows\rundll.exe user.exe,
exit windows
4. Click on Next
5. Name the new shortcut icon "Shut down fast
6. Click Finish
7. A Shut down fast icon now appears on your desktop.We have been working with Calendar Creator. Marie showed us how to add events to our calendar. She entered all of the WAUC meeting dates and times. Then she demonstrated how to add birthdays. She asked for some birth dates. Sandy Karlovich said her birth year was in 1975, and Doris told Marie her birth year was in 1970. Hmmmm!!! Looks like some foul play going on here. This program allows you to enter a birthday as, for example, Joan's 30th birthday. In notes then you can type in the year.
Marie then went to file, open, scroll down to either Holidayp.cce (with pictures), or Holidays.cce (without pictures). Like magic, all of the holidays appeared in calendar.
To change font and color: Go to format, define event style, then make choices. Sandy suggested Quill. It is a very nice font
The choices under file menu: from new to save as, pertain to events. The save in workspace will save the entire calendar that you are currently working on, which includes all of the event lists you used to create that particular calendar.
Sandy Karlovich and Dianne Vukovich, showed us how to view all of the angel graphics they have compiled into 4 disks. They used the
program ACDSee. It is a great program for viewing graphics. It is available on disk for $2.00, and if you like angels, you won't want to pass up these disks of the month. See Sandy or Dianne for more details.
It was another informative evening. Many thanks to Marie, Doris, and all of the members for sharing their ideas and talents.
Carole Zarnik
Do You Need Ink?
Attention WAUC members!! We are planning to place a order for Ink Cartridges early in September. We are able to get a very good price on ink cartridges for Cannon, Epson, etc. Hewlett Packer cartridges are difficult to get and we have had some problems with them. We can also get Dot Matrix ribbons for most printers. See me at the Sept. meeting as I will have a price catalog available. A $1.50 S/H charge applies to each order. We must have at least $30.00 worth of orders for the group in order to avoid a minimum handling order charge. Thank You,
Leo Hoffer, Program Chairman
Postal Service Plans
E-Projects-Including Permanent E-mail AddressesKen's Korner
by Ken Fermoyle
Anticipating that electronic bytes will take bigger and bigger bites out of first-class mail in future, the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) is readying new and varied electronic mail services for Americans. A major one would assign e-mail addresses to most people.One of the new services could notify customers by e-mail about an incoming bill or package, which they could then reroute to another address. Another proposal, set to begin a three-year consumer test in September, would allow customers to send e-mails to a post office to be printed and delivered as first-class mail. A third program, already available, lets customers pay bills online through the Postal Service's Web site.
Postal Service spokeswoman Sue Brennan called the e-projects "a way for customers to choose how they want to get their correspondence."
The new services will be added to Internet-oriented offerings the Postal Service already has in place. It began testing a kind of certified e-mail service in 1998. Called PostECS, it sends electronic receipts for contracts and other important documents transmitted over the Internet.
++Online Stamps Popular++
Last year, USPS rolled out its heralded system that makes postage available online. The Postal Service says 280,000 customers have printed $22.6 million worth of "online stamps" since July 1999, but the service has yet to deliver a profit.
Both of these existing services do show promise for future growth, however, which may be critical to the USPS is coming years. Considering that e-mail will soon take huge bites out of USPS first-class business, these moves, and more, are needed to move postal service into the 21st century. The post office itself predicts that in 2003, first-class mail service, now a $35 billion business and its top revenue producer, will begin an unprecedented decline at the hands of booming e-mail and online billing services.
Benjamin Franklin, our first postmaster and a great innovator himself, would surely applaud these new efforts, but probably would be critical of the Postal Service's slowness in facing up to challenges of new technologies. Banks, credit unions and many other private services already offer bill-paying services, and have for some time. Is it too late for the USPS to capture a piece of this pie? Judge for yourself. Under its own online billing system, the Postal Service charges customers $6 per month to send 20 electronic transactions, or $2 per month and 40 cents apiece for unlimited transactions. How does that compare with bill-paying services already available to you?
The e-mail-to-paper system would cost about 41 cents per message - eight cents more than current 33-cent postage. Is it worth it? My personal opinion is that it might be in some instances, but it would depend on how much faster the Postal Service can get time-critical correspondence to recipients than would be the case with normal first-class mail.
(Mail2000, a Bethesda, Md., company (mail2kinc.com) already offers a service that translates e-mail messages into first-class mail, plus a variety of other mail-related services. Aimed more at businesses and other volume mailers than individuals, it claims it can save time and money, compared to the USPS.
++Your Own 'Mailbox'++
The e-mailbox proposal, whereby virtually every American would be assigned a free e-mail address corresponding to his or her street address shows more promise.
Under this system, customers could simply link the service to any present e-mail address they have, or opt for a special online postal box. Customers could then get an e-mail address using their initials, followed by their nine-digit ZIP code and the last two numbers of their street address - with "usps.com" tacked at the end.
For instance, John Doe, 1234 Main St., Los Angeles, CA 91365-4004 would get the e-mail address: jd91365400445usps.com. I know, it's cumbersome and tough to rattle off from the top of your head! But it also is unique enough to minimize duplication problems. This would eliminate the need to change addresses when you change Internet Service Providers, but using e-mail services such as Bigfoot, Hotmail or Altavista mail provide a similar benefit.
It's no news that Americans are avid e-mailers. A new study by the Pew Internet and American Life Project found that more than 90 million people have Internet access. Of those, about 84 million use e-mail regularly, while 16 million have used some sort of online banking service.
E-commerce gurus have mixed feelings postal e-mail proposal. "They're in catch-up mode," was a typical reaction. Several experts I talked to pointed out that most people apt to use the service already have e-mail - and that many of the rest probably wouldn't log on for the tracking service.
"As schemes go, this one isn't bad," said one representative of a Santa Monica, Calif.-based technology research firm. "It absolutely makes sense - the Postal Service's business, and expertise, is mail delivery, and e-mail is just another form of mail. If the USPS ignored this new mailing technology it would insure that it would become obsolete eventually. Any steps it can take to work within the new framework should help it survive."
Apple II/IIGS SIG
The August 8th SIG was attended by Richard Durand, Sr. Samuel, her bird Blue, Lorraine and Richard Schmit, Doris Regner, Dick Reinhard, Robert West and Pat Nye.Dick was curious about the "envelope template" Doris had created at our last meeting and Doris reviewed its use with us once again. This template was for the purpose of printing a return name and address and an addressee's name and address on a #10 envelope.
Doris also reviewed formatting a blank disk, saving the template to a disk if we had no hard drive, and adding it to a file for those who have a hard drive.
Richard Schmit demonstrated an address program he has set up, wherein he has his return address and the addressee's address in appropriate positions, draws them out individually to clipboard, and then prints to an envelope. This seemed a bit time consuming to create, but is really neat when you only need one or two names from your labels list.Richard Durand again brought a tutorial Disk for the Apple IIE and busied himself and anyone else who might be interested in reviewing the Apple IIE.
Pat Nye
Postal Service Plans
E-Projects-Including Permanent E-mail AddressesKen's Korner
by Ken Fermoyle
Anticipating that electronic bytes will take bigger and bigger bites out of first-class mail in future, the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) is readying new and varied electronic mail services for Americans. A major one would assign e-mail addresses to most people.One of the new services could notify customers by e-mail about an incoming bill or package, which they could then reroute to another address. Another proposal, set to begin a three-year consumer test in September, would allow customers to send e-mails to a post office to be printed and delivered as first-class mail. A third program, already available, lets customers pay bills online through the Postal Service's Web site.
Postal Service spokeswoman Sue Brennan called the e-projects "a way for customers to choose how they want to get their correspondence."
The new services will be added to Internet-oriented offerings the Postal Service already has in place. It began testing a kind of certified e-mail service in 1998. Called PostECS, it sends electronic receipts for contracts and other important documents transmitted over the Internet.
++Online Stamps Popular++
Last year, USPS rolled out its heralded system that makes postage available online. The Postal Service says 280,000 customers have printed $22.6 million worth of "online stamps" since July 1999, but the service has yet to deliver a profit.
Both of these existing services do show promise for future growth, however, which may be critical to the USPS is coming years. Considering that e-mail will soon take huge bites out of USPS first-class business, these moves, and more, are needed to move postal service into the 21st century. The post office itself predicts that in 2003, first-class mail service, now a $35 billion business and its top revenue producer, will begin an unprecedented decline at the hands of booming e-mail and online billing services.
Benjamin Franklin, our first postmaster and a great innovator himself, would surely applaud these new efforts, but probably would be critical of the Postal Service's slowness in facing up to challenges of new technologies. Banks, credit unions and many other private services already offer bill-paying services, and have for some time. Is it too late for the USPS to capture a piece of this pie? Judge for yourself. Under its own online billing system, the Postal Service charges customers $6 per month to send 20 electronic transactions, or $2 per month and 40 cents apiece for unlimited transactions. How does that compare with bill-paying services already available to you?
The e-mail-to-paper system would cost about 41 cents per message - eight cents more than current 33-cent postage. Is it worth it? My personal opinion is that it might be in some instances, but it would depend on how much faster the Postal Service can get time-critical correspondence to recipients than would be the case with normal first-class mail.
(Mail2000, a Bethesda, Md., company (mail2kinc.com) already offers a service that translates e-mail messages into first-class mail, plus a variety of other mail-related services. Aimed more at businesses and other volume mailers than individuals, it claims it can save time and money, compared to the USPS.
++Your Own 'Mailbox'++
The e-mailbox proposal, whereby virtually every American would be assigned a free e-mail address corresponding to his or her street address shows more promise.
Under this system, customers could simply link the service to any present e-mail address they have, or opt for a special online postal box. Customers could then get an e-mail address using their initials, followed by their nine-digit ZIP code and the last two numbers of their street address - with "usps.com" tacked at the end.
For instance, John Doe, 1234 Main St., Los Angeles, CA 91365-4004 would get the e-mail address: jd91365400445usps.com. I know, it's cumbersome and tough to rattle off from the top of your head! But it also is unique enough to minimize duplication problems. This would eliminate the need to change addresses when you change Internet Service Providers, but using e-mail services such as Bigfoot, Hotmail or Altavista mail provide a similar benefit.
It's no news that Americans are avid e-mailers. A new study by the Pew Internet and American Life Project found that more than 90 million people have Internet access. Of those, about 84 million use e-mail regularly, while 16 million have used some sort of online banking service.
E-commerce gurus have mixed feelings postal e-mail proposal. "They're in catch-up mode," was a typical reaction. Several experts I talked to pointed out that most people apt to use the service already have e-mail - and that many of the rest probably wouldn't log on for the tracking service.
"As schemes go, this one isn't bad," said one representative of a Santa Monica, Calif.-based technology research firm. "It absolutely makes sense - the Postal Service's business, and expertise, is mail delivery, and e-mail is just another form of mail. If the USPS ignored this new mailing technology it would insure that it would become obsolete eventually. Any steps it can take to work within the new framework should help it survive."
Copyright 1999 by Ken Fermoyle, Fermoyle Publications. Ken Fermoyle has written some 2,500 articles for publications ranging from Playboy and Popular Science to MacWeek, Microtimes & PC Laptop. Ken's Korner, a syndicated monthly column, is available free to computer user, non-profit & educational groups. For information or permission to reprint, contact kfermoyle@earthlink.net.
BEGINNING BALANCE $3888.59 INCOME Membership 12.50 Rebates 150.00 Apple II Sales 8.00 Donation Wauc Picnic/
Arlene Logan50.00 TOTAL INCOME $220.50 EXPENSES Marcia Zientek -- Postage/Printing Directory 320.28 Doris Regner -- Door Prizes/Sweatshirts 155.48 Bruce Kosbab -- Soda/picnic 12.60 Terry Harvey -- Door Prizes 23.91 Postmaster -- P.O. Box - 6 months 22.00 Marie Bellin -- Printing/Aug. Newsletter 59.40 Marcia Zientek -- Subs/Coffee Picnic 67.89 Jackie Tamsett -- Plates/forks - Picnic 2.72 TOTAL EXPENSES $664.28 ENDING BALANCE $3444.81 Jackie Tamsett, Treasurer
Mac DOM
The September Mac Disk of the Month sells for $2.00 and contains:
War of Flowers--An Oriental Card Game version 2.0.9, is freeware, but it is not in public domain.
Diagonal vZ.2 is a game in which the object is to move your three pieces to one of the two diagonals.
The Super Grouch 2.5 A nice (but annoying) extension, that animates your trash can.
Fly Swatter 2~0 is a game and is freeware.
SCSI Probe V3.5 is a Control Panel (cdev) useful for identifying and mounting devices to your SCSI bus.
CD Labeler V2.O More Mac errors
MicroSoft Coming to WAUC in October
David Severino will be coming to WAUC's October 5th meeting to present the Microsoft Windows 2000 Millenium Edition for Home Use program.Everyone at the July meeting enjoyed his presentation, "Learn, Create and Have Fun with MicroSoft". So mark your calendars now and mention this presentation to anyone you think might be interested.
Two young engineers fresh out of college put in applications
for an engineering position with a company. Both clients having
the exact same qualifications, they were asked to take a test
by the Department manager to help decide which one to hire.Upon completion of the test, both applicants had missed only
one of the questions. After reviewing the tests, the manager
decided to speak with the losing applicant first:Manager: Thanks for your interest, but we have decided to give
the position to the other applicant.Applicant: Why would you do that? We both got 9 questions correct,
why choose the other applicant over me?Manager: We have made our decision not based upon the correct
answers, but on the question you missed.Applicant: And just how would one incorrect answer be better than
the other?Manager: Simple. The other applicant answered "I don't know"
for question 5. Your answer was "Neither do I."Welcome New Members
Paul A. Kintz
Erwin ErdmannUpdated: December 9, 2000
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